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Hey Captain,

yes those rogues do have distinct style. And yes, I do see how someone vulnerable, lost, lonely, and down could be 'easy pickings'.

This is slightly different in that the advertiser (dating site), through carfeul and clever marketing presents as-kosher.

However, due to again clever computor default settings-unwittingly consumer is purchasing a subscription that says they are paying for example $50.00...the prospective consumer enters their credit cared details expecting to pay the $50.00 click yes and by default their credit card is automaticly debited for $300.00-when they advertiser had said $50.00.

So new member has no idea that they have just been charged $300.00

It gets way worse.

The advertiser NOW has credit card details...bare with me

The member is unlikely to have any idea at this stage.

As they spend a wee bit of time on the site they learn that the 'matches' being sent to them are never in the same country...or, as often the case, they are said to be in the same country-but currently overseas on business...

The member realises this is phoney-and want their membership cancelled.

At the very least they advise said advertiser DO NOT RENEW my membership.

But the clever scammer/advertiser already has the credit card details AND burried in 14 pages of terms and conditions of the contract in the tiniest writing possible-yes it say if you want to cancel your membership click your profile and then click 'membership cancellation'

which of course subscribers do

unaware that by clicking that membership cancellation button-the scammer then debits yet another 300.00 from their credit card.

So in essence the ONLY way out is to completely cancel credit card and get a new one altogether.

Then said scammer/advertiser...once they realise that the credit card they have access to is no obsolete...the start sending threatning emails etc...ifg you don't pay up we will send your debt to credit collectors and this will downgrade your credit ratings

etc etc etc

in addition to this they have threatened ex members with a barrage of 'what they will do, if"

This is a brief outline only given here.

So how do they get away with it???

For sooooo long? And I'm not talking hundreds of people-I am talking thousands!!! Maybe tens of thousands...?

Complaints I've seen date back to 2004.

The company says it is based in switzerland-the bank account maybe. For all the wiser know they could be based (likely) in Nigeria with accounts in Switzerland

Ramonita

Morning, yes I have reported it. I guess my intention was to invoke some discussion/thought as to what others felt about it in general.

In particular with respect to the keeping the site free...vs....having a direct link, one or two clicks from having a whole mess of new problems b.c the advertiser is a scammer.

Just thought I'd see what others thought : )

tob2

sorry, hmmm I must be having a thick moment...not sure I follow. After first sentence. But thats ok, maybe its that bosenberry cheesecake sitin in the fridge thats got me distracted. : )

I agree with u Captain, yes its a buyer beware world we live in... though another part of me just doen't accept ignoring it totally because I also believe where possible to prevent more harm, if and when I am able.

Ok in a nutshell I am aware of an online company advertising on this site that is globally involved in stealing money from its subscribers.

In the first instance-I have messaged the contact center here and request that they investigate their association with such an outfit...given this is both a site where members are people with spiritual beliefs, values etc AND this site is also a business there is in my mind an inherant tension in this situation.

I am interested what fellow members here think about this kind of situation???

What of the other advertisers on this site? what do we know of them? do they get screened for potential practices that are not aligned...or completely at odds with the basic goals of this kind of site? Are other members comfortable with advertisers (helping keep this site free) of this nature i.e scurrolous theives-actively engaged in targeting more victims?

Ok I have managed to identify that I am a rabbit (black) for the year I was born 63, that my month is metal for august, and my day is brown pig 24th. I was born in the hour of the horse 11:40am, My lucky element is fire- and my lucky directiion/positions have a south orientaion-

would anyone be able to help me with regard to love/relationship potential ...when i'm likely to meet/connect with someone special in my life...'the one' ? please? Middle age has crept on in and yeah I would prefer someone very special to grow old with-than on my own.

Morning, (hope it is morning where u are : ) Daliolite,

I thanku, thankU thankyou for your very generous offer to read for me. I managed to get some insight into whats been going on so feeling much more relaxed about things...funny what a little hope can do.

Thanku : )

I admire your passion, musta been something to do with the planetary aspects 2nyt b,c i ended up gettn tad passionate myself with one of the women from work 2nyt...grrrr. And I was in such a happy mood when i got to work. Oh well no doubt there be a bit of fall out 2morrow 2 deal with but x that bridge if needed, then.

Sounds like you pretty happy in your relationship...always good to hear : )

Had my reading this morning. The reading was good. Confirmed I'm on the right track so yea pretty happy with that.

I will go back to another posting and pass back the offer. There are lota people so generous here-and a few that i kinda don't know how they keep up with all the requests. gota admire that as well.

could be...worms, iron defficiency, depression (subject to other stuff going on), loads n loads of different viruses will make you tired, pregnant, as ramonita suggests best person to ask this is your doctor