After reading about the situation with your son LibraLiar, I can totally see my son doing the same thing. Seems my son has a hard time learning from other peoples mistakes, but sure learns from personal pain & suffering. Up until a few weeks ago he would always dismiss most anything I would explain to him very rationally or offer him as advice so easily.. no matter if I showed him the warning signs I was "paranoid" . Even though my irrational "predictions" and "serial paranoia" almost always seemed to manifest into reality!.. I was doomed to be the stupid OLD PERSON! Things have changed since I let him live with his dad (my abusive ex) . After 3 weeks I am now all of a sudden "The most rational parent out of any parent he has ever met". Amazing!!

Note: The reason I am reaching out to you gals is that I am a single mom and my son's father is the antithisis of everything my son & I believe in (ie equal rights, compassion, valuing creativity & the arts and feeling connected spiritually to others,etc) therefore he does not have any positive MALE role models. I do believe that this may be what is missing in his life (and wow, I believe may be a common thread among the other Libra men too). But you can't just pull something like that out of your hat when your a single mom, when it doesn't exist around you or in any family members. There are 2 men in the family, but one is in NY (Peter of Peter, Paul & Mary.. my 2nd cousin) and my 80+ year old Uncle in CA (Peters Cousin). All the other men, esp on my mothers side are egocentric, controlling & manipulative.

Hi Libras!! God love you... your a great group. To be honest, I am a Gemini mom trying to figure out my Libra teenage son. We get along great now, but we have had our bumps (some big). Then again what parent hasn't. I find that I love Libra men, but they are a contridiction in themselves in addition to very enigmatic. I have had the experience that the Libra men (including my son) that have come into my life have been of the "lazy" type but I have always felt that they were more uninspired if anything else. They have all been artistically gifted (especially in music) and although seem somewhat "loners" in a way they are the "stars" when they are among others in a group. I find them very open-minded and intellegent, so much so that I often wonder why they aren't more "accomplished" or successful than they are because they sure seem innately sharper and perceptive than most other signs, even if they have less formal education than the "others" may happen to have. Libras see the possibilities and don't try to "lie to themselves" which others do and which prevents opening of the mind. Now I have noticed on the other hand that truth seeking Libras on the other hand often surprise me with their "secretness" and ability to lie without any guilt. But it's not as though they are ever "plotting against" someone in order to strategically manipulate people directly. I see it more as doing it because they are just to lazy and don't want to deal with consequences if they don't have to. It's like the moral fiber is there, but if standing up for ones principles is going to cause depravity or excessive burden then it's almost like lying is okay because it is as natural as breathing. Maybe asking mostly Libra women isn't the right group (b/c I think the group is mostly females here) but I generally find if there is something I don't like that I see in a specific gender within one sign the other gender in that sign doesn't have that problem. This is just my observations over the last 30+ years that I have actually been interested in astrology though.

Yes, I do find Libra women very strong.. yet they are in need of companionship. If they have a strong partner by their side, they can accomplish a greatest of feats. I am like this in many ways, but things have changed for me because I don't find much integrity in men anymore (esp in HOUSTON) that I find I don't mind being single when the opposite tends to be unhappy in a relationship (if I ever comes to that) . I also look & seem much younger in spirit than my 43+ years and due to my hobbies I am around younger men who do not know how much younger I am and are confused why I prefer to just stay friends. BTW, I have a tendency to be a packrat (which I didn't realize was a Gemini trait until I read the messages with everyones general consesus) but it's kinda true. That kind of goes against our nature, but I know for me it's more about intention fighting against a mind that is always working and often fights with being distracted. I find I work best with having a partner that is inately tidier than I and helps me that way while I spend time doing "research" to accumulated information to make the best choices. Gemini's are able clean out the cabinets of knowledge and organize information much better than most... and although you can't "see" it, it is extreamly necessary and overlooked in value!!!

Sorry for the detour, back to you Libras.. and thus my ultimate question. Do you see (although maybe not "personally") anything concerning this "lazy" side to Libra and if so, do you believe it has to do with lack of inspiration or motivation? And if you do, does anyone have any suggestions on how to help and support my Libra(s) instead of doing everything for them. You see, I find that these Libra men will let you do everything for them without shame & without guilt in assisting in some other way in return if they can get away with it. I often find I have to have clear boundaries and have to be specific and be creative and precise in choosing which consequense they will have to face because they can live with absolutely nothing if they have to!!! Negative reinforcement often gives an opportunity to blame others and not themselves... making it easly to retaliate passive agressively (therefore typically not the best method I've found). Then again they're so lazy that luck has a lot to any positive reinforcement options incentivating my Libra men enough to expect them to follow through. I'm starting to think the phrase "Behind every great man you will find a greater woman" was made for the Libra man because she had to figure him out first before he would do anything!!!.