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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Thank you for your comments. Of course my first instinct is always to leave when someone treats me badly. However, I'm starting to find that no one is perfect and it seems alot of men don't know how to love. So when does one draw the line and pick one to work on? lol There are a lot of good things about this man. Yes I'm devastated. But I do believe he cares, just maybe can't show it in ways I want him to. Yes I believe he definitely has a problem showing love. As for the attempting to cheat...other couples have gotten through this type of thing. I would really like to try and make it work with him. You asked why I would want to marry him....at this point I don't. I'm hoping to get back to where I was sure I wanted to. I think i will try for awhile. I have some counseling set up for us. I will keep you updated and please know I really appreciate be able to come here. I am new in this town and no friends to turn to except one friend who lives far away and my mother LOL

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Hi guys! Unfortunately, I'm back 😞 If you remember I had a virgo guy that I became engaged to within 5 weeks. Something major happened in my life and I was looking to him for support, which I did not receive. I ended up leaving and moving about 12 hours away to a job that would help me take care of the events that happened. I left all of my belongings in his house while I was gone for 5 months. I went to thailand just before heading back to move my things out. I thought I was strong enough to stay away from him but we ended up back together. It's been three months now and I am regretting the decision 😞 I did move all my furniture home and then back again! So I am living with him again. My house is now up for sale. I have a new job where he lives that is going well. I just found out last week that a month after we got back together he sent my good friend (his best friends wife--they have been split up for six months but he still wants her back) texts asking her to have sex with him--saying he feels a connection with her and wonders what it would be like to be with her!!!! I am devastated! We have talked a bit about it. I told him I would try to put it in the past but I am having a hard time with it. My head is telling me that if he loved me he wouldn't have done that. He did give me back my engagement ring (with no date set) a month after he did that. He said he is with me because he loves me alot. I am trying to get over it. A friend of ours is getting married soon and we have been helping get the site ready. My man and I were supposed to get married last weekend from the first time the date was set. It came up that we should get married at this site at the end of the summer to which he adamantly replied NO and I am hurt by this. I figured if he was going to make it up to me and prove to me that he really does care about me this would have been the way to do it. Don't get me wrong...I don't want to push or force anyone into marriage. I have never been married and it's because that is for life to me. It doesn't feel right anymore anyways. I feel like leaving again. When he doesn't answer his phone or things like that I am having a hard time not wondering what he is doing. I think that will eventually stop. A part of me feels like I would like to give him the chance to see if things will work but a part of me feels he is going to do something to hurt me again. I am confused about how to handle all of this. You guys were all so great last time with your insights. If you have some time and some thoughts I would really appreciate you sharing them. thx.

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Hi ladies! It's been three weeks with no communication with my V. I've pretty much given up hope. One thing noteworthy is his ex who he was with for 12 years left him for another man and I have often felt the rage he directs at me has more to do with her. Anyways, I'm taking a break I am going to costa rica in the morning for a month and I expect to be fully healed when I get back πŸ™‚ take care all of you. Don't let anything that they are going through reflect on you as a person because I've gotten to know all of you enough to know that we are wonderful women and everything happens for a reason! So as Jenever and I discussed taking each day as a positive adventure to grow is the best route to take...

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Hans-Wolfgang? I haven't noticed any contributions from him. I guess I haven't read far enough back. It's always nice to have someone challenging you to be the best that you can be. My friend Brenda has been a constant for me through this and many other life challenges. But I try to be careful not to drain my well so to speak that is why I was so incredibly happy to find all of you ladies going through exactly the same situation. On the topic of breaking free of past patterns I agree that this is one of the huge keys to happiness and that awareness of the patterns are just the first step! It takes many years of monumental effort to make the smallest changes in ourselves. That is why I am always surprised at many womens optimism that they can "change" their man. Especially when most of the time the man doesn't even know he needs changing! This seems to especially fit for V's. They are incredibly self focused, unemotional, unempathetic, controlling, regimented etc. They have to be one of the worst signs to try and have a "relationship" with lol I really relate to your description of your challenges after your divorce. I have felt at times that people around me are worried about me "collapsing" under the pressure to reinvent myself after going from having it all-new engagement, new house, not having to work, planning a wedding etc to being "homeless" and having to work 12 hour days to pull everything together so I can move back to my property. But I choose as you chose to view it as an adventure. An opportunity to grow to relook at life and relationships. I have decided that this year I will stay single and only have male friends. I need to slow down and discover what I want MY life to loom like. Taking life day by day and living in the moment are great tools but sometimes we need to start at the end and work backwards πŸ™‚ One thing that really struck me about your post is your comment that your ex left you "alone" in your relationship. Wow. That is why I left my V and that is what I have observed as the common thread between all of us "V lovers" so if your end result is not to be there again then you should run now!! I am personally on the lookout for a libra man. They are very communicative and emotional and empathetic-- everything I believe that a good relationship needs. The end result you can up with sounds VERY complicated my girl and would need a strong "partner" a word I don't believe is in V's vocabulary!

      Leogemini--I'm curious what sign is your husband?

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Jenever you come across as very down to earth. Knowledgeable about and comfortable with who you you are. Very present in the moment and accepting of how things are not struggling to force them into the shape you want them to be. These are all great factors in dealing with life and love as we all know how challenging it can be. I agree whole heartedly with all you said but realistically I think the chances of him leaving his wife and moving where you are with his kids couldn't be that high. Wouldn't the kids stay with her? So he would be losing everything with no promise of anything to gain. I've been here. I didn't do it either. It's like asking a tightrope walker to jump with no safety net πŸ™‚ he did say he wants family life-big for a lot of men but huge for V's I didn't hear anything about how you envision your life. Would he move closer and you would date? I hope everything works out but it sounds like you will be great even if it doesn't. I'm thinking his comment about another guy was an attempt at control. He must be feeling vulnerable. P.S. I don't think a nudge constitutes "dragging" lol throw the poor guy a bone lol

      Leogemini how nice to hear you live by the water too, I'm surprised we aren't all pisces lol please try to remember that everything happens for a reason. This has happened to me before and it turned out to be a wonderful thing! I know it may not seem like it at first but when you find your mind working overtime to make you feel shame or fear just remember this too shall pass and have a glass of wine and look at the beautiful water and dream about the person you will become! πŸ™‚

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Hey Jenever, just a thought that popped into my head while reading your post. You said you got along so well and he opened up and that you have been focusing on your life. I'm sure he has felt this and when a distance comes without emotional drama I've found my V responded appropriately to it (ie how I wanted him to πŸ™‚ I am relieved to hear that he has the ability to think deeply and self reflect it's the only chance I have left that mine will accept some responsibility for what happened and take some of the blame off of me so he can trust me again. I agree that loyalty is probably more important than love. That translates into trust for them. Trust that their regimented daily routine won't be compromised. I think v's could go through a tornado without straying from getting up, setting the coffee maker, brushing their teeth, checking the mail etc lol I am wondering if jarring him out of his comfort zone into leaving his wife might have to come from you. I think you said you are a long distance relationship too aren't you? Leaving his wife would be scary enough but moving from family, friends, job etc would be too much I think. Im not sure what you want from your relationship. I know you have kids. Im not sure if you see yourself living with him or not but perhaps it's time to strike a deal. With all these realizations that other relationships aren't permanent it may take the "stain" off his reputation to leave at a similar time. Perhaps you could offer to move to where he is to get a place together? I know it took some pushing (gentle-not ultimatums) to get my V to committ. If you explain in a rational, non emotional "I can't wait forever" way he may go for it. Remember they like to be told what to do do. Tell him he has 2 weeks or a month to offer you something to hang on for-If he doesn't you still haven't lost anything but have also given him a glimpse of what you would like your future with him to look like. Good luck and keep us updated πŸ™‚

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      I live in Victoria BC (on vancouver island) at the moment but usually reside in Prince George BC which is basically in the center of the province

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      OH! You did comment Jenever totally missed that until now lol yes shocker is a good way to describe it and slap in the face and cruel and a bunch of other not so nice words come to mind. I couldn't believe that he could do that at Christmas when he knows I have nothing and no one. I know I described him as a good man with good intentions but it appears my perception was skewed. There is a small part of me who hopes they crash and burn in short order too πŸ™‚ But I doubt that will happen as long as she isnt a complete idiot or she doesn't leave him he should be all good. I'm hoping he pisses her off and she leaves too that MIGHT help him realize he is partly to blame for us as well but it's doubtful. He is more likely to swear to bachelorhood. He definitely wants nothing to do with emotions his or anyone else's. He is trying to stuff his succeeding and it's bound to come flying out-my guess is on New Years because he has had a few angry outbursts while drinking. Miss mouth (I LOVE your nickname for her) is in for a surprise for sure. I had thoughts at first that maybe she was a family member instead but the sound of entitlement in her voice was very clear. I doubt this rebound will last as well but the possibility that I have been categorically replaced seems quite real. As you said he nay flip flop at some point but he would need to lose control of his emotions first which isn't likely to happen beyond a night of drinking. However, my goal is to heal my heart enough that if he does come around I don't waver because I don't want to go back. His family has been helping him with his vindictive behavior and things would never be the same between all of us. There us too much water under the bridge and his negative emotions would be sure to surface again and again. I want to thank you all SO MUCH for your support in sorting out my part and his part and for your kind words in my dark moments you have really made a difference in my life! Imagine that! Complete strangers in a huge world and somehow I managed to find you.

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      One thing all of us ladies on this post seem to be forgetting is that first and foremost our V's are men. If a man wants a woman he "takes" her. It gies back to cave man men are simple creatures. If they do not call or come around it is because they don't want to. If they feel indifferent then they are. Love does not make excuses. Hope this helps. I think all of us should band together and refuse to talk to our V's until they are willing to meet some of our needs!

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Oh leogemini I feel your pain I agree with jenever that it is not good to push anything right now. I think the way with Virgo is to build on simple conversation. Talk about common things, their job etc. Just be there. But be a mystery. Be a challenge. Do not say anything about you relationship or the other girl. At least he is not livid and you can talk to him. Talk to him regularly this will help you too because part of the pain of a breakup is feeling that you can't talk to him. I wish you luck and peace of mind πŸ™‚

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Thank you ABB I have similar thoughts about his behavior and what it means. He is very bruised and if he is in a new relationship so soon I doubt it will work. I am taking a break from him and I won't see or talk to him for a few months to let it run it's course. It may or may not work out with this new girl if there is one. I'm feeling more positive about things because it did show me how cruel he can be and also it might help him love me more. We shall see. The games he plays are tiring and I want something real so I will back off for now. I do have to eventually get my things I just hope that she is not there when I do because it is easier to be dignified from a distance πŸ™‚

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Well I am completely devastated. I called him (before reading your post) and I told him I still love him and he said....my beautiful new girlfriend is standing here with me and she doesn't want you calling me and then she called out ya the calls stop now. So I guess it really is over and he must really hate me to tell me like that. I'm hoping the knowledge will help with my closure I am much too soft hearted to be with someone that cruel. He sounded so arrogant and so happy to tell me that. He must still be hurt. And personally I think she is crazy to get involved with someone fresh out of an engagement. Does she go over there and sit on my couch and see me all around and really believe that he is over me? He must have done a good job of convincing her and perhaps himself. It's odd because this is how we went too-way too fast and mostly at his pushing granted I didn't stop it although I felt I should at times. I hope they are happy I hope the pain fades more quickly for me now that I know he is with someone else. Damn I'm so devastated.

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Thanks for all the comments and for taking the time to write such an insightful reply. It is a very wise statement that it is unrealistic and unfair to expect someone to cater to my immediate emotional needs and that I should dig deep to resolve these underlying feelings of hurt so that I can depend on myself for happiness. The childish side of me still would hope my significant other would want to comfort me so perhaps my balance scales tip more towards the love side than the security side. I do need both though. I understand it's mostly from childhood abandonment issues but I also recognize that if I do not improve on this area of my personality there is a real possibility I will never be happy in a relationship because most people are self focused as I appear to be. That was a good question to make me reflect. If he is a good man at heart and doesn't mean to hurt me then what is really going on. Apparently I am projecting untrue thoughts onto the situation and causing myself to be hurt. Perhaps even creating drama and chaos to satisfy my mind that seems to enjoy the work of untangling it. Now if I could only do that without affecting the other person until I can learn to control it altogether lol. I didn't really look at it like fixing himself in order to fix me. I need to reflect on this more because I am feeling an aversion to that statement. I looked at it more like both of us gaining the necessary communication and empathy tools that would be necessary to sustain a long relationship. I have been reading a book called the art of happiness by the Dalai Lama and Howard C. Cutler I really recommend this book! I will share a few exerpts that apply to our conversation....Nyon Mong refers to negative states of mind that afflict from within. This long term is usually shortened to "delusions" (lol makes sense!) this Nyon Mong spontaneously afflicts your mind, destroys your peace of mind or brings about a disturbance in your psyche when it arises. These afflictive emotions, cognitive events or "delusions" can ultimately be rooted out and eliminated from our minds. The first premise is that thesestates of mind are distorted, in that they are doted in misperceiving the actual reality of the situation. No matter how powerful, deep down these negative emotions have no valid foundation. They are based on ignorance. Therefore, there seems to be a general consensus among all Buddhist traditions that in order to FULLY overcome these negative tendencies, one must apply the antidote to ignorance--the wisdom factor. This is indispensable. The wisdom factor involves generating insight into the true nature of reality. He then goes on to explain how to do that. Quite valuable information in this book. I am now fighting myself on whether to contact my V or not. How much space do I give him? Do I wait for him to contact me? I could die first πŸ™‚ even if he does contact me it may not mean he is open to a relationship. I'm wondering a couple of things...I've waited three weeks...perhaps I should start mailing him letters. I wrote one last night just friendly to open contact. I let him know how the job is going and thanked him for looking after my cat and furniture until I can get it moved. Perhaps I can progress onto more personal matters in the next one in a couple of weeks, let him know I have learned where I went wrong and am taking steps to fix it so I won't hurt my next partner. I'm thinking if we are ever going to get back together it will take friendly contact and as you said Jenever to win his trust back. Perhaps it will help to initiate some contact. Perhaps it would push him further away I am unsure. Oh and ariesburnsbright I have apologized a few times for leaving and for not managing my emotions better and for hurting him. He has not apologized for anything but after the last couple of posts I am beginning to see his position even more and also as a wise woman once said we are not all into delving into deep emotion. I don't believe it is in his makeup and if I hadn't created all this drama and been able to handle myself better I would riding beside him on his cart of stableness that I so needed but decided to upset! Oh to have met you ladies sooner πŸ™‚ thank you for your brutal honesty lol and merry christmas to you and yours!

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      I can see how I would seem ambivalent πŸ™‚ I am a Gemini after all. I did mention the things I liked about him in an earlier post but I will try to elaborate on both of my twins thinking πŸ™‚ first, the negative; one moment I am convinced that he is a cold man who is so caught up in himself that what I feel and need isn't important to him and that he has done many hurtful things to me and all I did to him was leave. I know if I go back things will be the same he won't be there for me emotionally or any other way I need. Then I realize that there were alot of nice things he did for me (buying me snow tires and rims, putting my top on my jeep, going bowling every Sunday, buying me flowers, running me a bath, agreeing to go to counseling to learn how to communicate etc. etc. I also realize that he is basically a good natured guy and most of our problems came from him being unaware of what I needed. I did explain and he was trying. It was the horrible "thing" that happened that made me mire needy than usual and he just wasn't equipped to deal with it yet as we hadn't had our first counseling session yet. I also realize that I will never find anyone perfect. He was the closest thing to the man of my dreams that I have ever met. He was hardworking, tidy, outdoorsy, responsible yet fun. Everyone likes him, attractive, told me to be a housewife and not work (Ive worked my ass off as a single mom for 18 years) we were set for retirement, he looked after my jeep and was nice to my kids etc. There was a lot to build on and only one area to "fix" I think if I went back and we went to counseling to work on communication and empathy that I could grow old with this man. I do not mind arguements or having hurt feelings (I am incredibly sensitive--good luck not hurting them!) as long as I can talk about and get an apology I am fine. My problem is that he didn't know how to do that yet so matters were made worse when I tried to talk and I would end up leaving the house in anger which he hated! If I would have stayed we wouldn't be here. I will have work to do in any relationship around my sensitivity but he has a great base to build from. Yes he has beenvery coldhearted and immature since I left but I did bring it on by hurting him. It will be hard for him to trust his daily routine won't be compromised by me getting upset and leaving all the time. I believe even though he would say and do little thoughtless things theywere never with the intent of hurting me and he is probably confused about why I get upset as he is not sensitive. Hope that helps to clarify πŸ™‚ I drive myself crazy with my thoughts jumping all over the place. In the end the reason I want to go home is because the good outweighed the bad and I love him and I hope that we can make a few small adjustments to make eachother happy. We really were just getting to know eachother and it was to be expected to have a few hurdles. I really wish he saw it that way instead of thinking that a relationship should just work without work πŸ™‚ I really hope that his heart wins over his head and he decides to give us another chance. I think I can make it work if he is willing to get some skills and put some effort into our relationship.

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Well for us it was easy to know when he THOUGHT he found the one for him. He did put a ring on my finger within 5 weeks of meeting! That is why I am having so much trouble with this. How can you love someone enough to do that and then write them off so quickly! I guess that knowing what I know now, I was too much for him to handle. I need intimacy and communication and when it doesn't happen I feel hurt and then I take off-- the reason I haven't plunked down on his couch is because when he said I couldn't come home I was left homeless because I rented out my house so I was forced to move 12 hours away for a job. I did try to communicate through texts but he wouldn't answer them. Now I am left waiting him out. I can do it but I am afraid that we will lose what little connection we have by doing that but I don't want to talk about the weather. I am hoping he is processing and will contact me but I have a heavy feeling in my heart that he is just going to stick to this path because he thinks it will be easier emotionally for him to be single. The only chance I have left is to give him his space and let the universe sort it out. Part of the reason I am so confused on what to say if he does come around is because I am likely to just become emotional again. I will try to keep any communication short and to the point and non emotional without being distant. It will be a delicate balance if I do get the chance. He can take all the time in the world to find his way back to me. I have already forgiven him and myself and I believe I know enough now to make him happy if I go home but I am unsure if I will be happy 😞 I am looking at it as we are over so I can move on hopefully because I believe I need more even though my heart hurts now it will leave me free to be with someone who is a little more interestedin my needs too. Thanks for being so supportive πŸ™‚ it really helps to know others are as miserable as me! Lol

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      I found this interesting horoscope for Virgo. I agree with most of it except the caring and considerate part lol

      Shy and modest, the Virgo man is rather analytical than sentimental, intellectual than romantic. Rational and puritan, he needs to know exactly where he stands and what he has to do. The Virgo man does not enjoy mysteries. On the other hand, love and sex are mysteries we know little about.

      The Virgo man is critical and very demanding. His extraordinary ability to seize flaws makes him very selective. Consequently, the fear of getting involved in a situation he cannot control, the lack of a detailed and precise recipe for love handling, as well as his special exactingness make it rather difficult for the Virgo man to start a relationship.

      Very organized and orderly, the Virgo man is afraid that his intimacy will be violated and his discretion and bashfulness make him terrify at the thought he might be expected to manifest his love through gestures he does not feel he can make. Besides that, he is the practical and economical kind and love could mean waste of time and energy. All these things make the Virgo sign provide the largest number of bachelors.

      However, as often happens, the Virgo man looks in his partner for the things he himself refrains from. What is most terrifying to him becomes precisely the great fascination in love: the fervency, the spontaneous expression of intuition and imagination, the energy and love of life. When the Virgo man meets these qualities in the woman he is interested in, the refrained child he carries deep within himself sets free and runs towards freedom...

      Virgo man horoscope by Linda Goodman

      We may as well get this out into the open right away. Don't pin your hopes on a Virgo man if your heart is hungry for romantic dreams and fairy tales, or you'll find yourself on a starvation diet. A love affair with a Virgo will dump a warm sentimentalist on the cold ground with a hard thud, and it can hurt.

      This man lives almost entirely on a practical, material level, and he has little use for the abstractions of storybook romance. Of course, the whole problem may be academic anyway, since it will take no little effort to bring him any where near the threshold of a man-woman relationship in the first place. He's not the type to serenade you beneath your boudoir window. You'll have a long, lonely wait on your moonlit balcony until he starts climbing the rose trellis (or the fire escape, if you live in a walk-up).

      Actually, Virgos are deeply involved with love from earliest childhood, but not the Romeo-Juliet kind of love. His chief way of expressing the word is concerned with unselfish devotion to family, friends and those weaker or more disorganized than himself. He was born with an instinctive love of work, love of duty and discipline and devotion to the helpless. Even the unevolved Virgo, ,who doesn't quite reach such heights, feels slightly guilty that he isn't living up to a selfless ideal in some way.

      The kind of love which displays itself in dramatic emo tions, sentimental promises, tearful declarations and mushy affection, not only leaves a Virgo man cold, it can frighten him into catching the nearest bus or train out of town. (Planes are too fast and too expensive for him, unless he's really desperate.) But he can be melted if the temperature is just right, even though he seems to be made of a com bination of steel and ice. There are definitely ways to the Virgo heart. Secret ways. Aggressive pursuit is not one of them. Neither is coquetry nor sexuality, as many a flirta tious vamp and slinky siren has learned, to her surprise and disappointment.

      Virgos seek quality rather than quantity in romance. Since quality is at pretty much of a premium in any cate gory, they have few real love affairs, and the few they do have are destined to be unlucky or sad in some way, more often than not. Virgo's reaction to such a disappointment is normally to bury himself in the hardest work he can find, stay away from society in general, and be twice as cautious at the next opportunity. You can see that you'll have to use considerable strategy and patience. The basic Virginian instinct is chastity, and he's turned from it only for a good cause or for a mighty good woman. Many Virgos-though admittedly not all-can live with celibacy far more easily than any other Sun sign, just as they put up with rules of discipline they don't understand, because obedience to fate without struggling comes naturally to them. If fate decrees a single life, Virgo is prepared to accept it without excess regret or emotional trauma, so there are lots of Virgo bachelors around-but still, in their quiet way, they can manage some very poetic, if fragile, love affairs.

      Although he's never obvious, Virgo can be a master of the art of subtle seduction. A couple of generations of women who have trembled inside when a certain French man smiles his shy, gentle smile can tell you all about it. Maurice Chevalier didn't become a legend because he has a singing voice like Caruso, you know. He may not be of my generation, but I too get butterflies in the heart region when I see or hear him.

      The Virgo man is a blend of sharp intellect and solid earth. He can be detached enough to break lots of hearts with a cool kind of flirting, but his critical analytical sense and his fastidious discrimination seldom allow these fre quent excursions to leave the platonic arena. It has to burn with a white heat to produce real passion in a Virgo. His modesty and selectivity alone prevent undue promiscuity. Of course, there may be an occasional fall into an earthy, physical experience, but such indiscretions are the exception, rather than the rule. The rule is aloof interest. I know pne Virgo man who accepted a part in one of those really raw "for adults only" films, but he did it strictly for the cash-he was flat broke at the time-and he still blushes when anyone mentions it. Naturally, a man is a man, and not all Virgo: remain technical virgins, but they do always emain puu in outlool-. There's invariably something clean ind chaste about Virgo love, which is never allowed to become soiled--cven in the midst of passion- -no matter vhat unfortunate events may give the outward appearance pf casualties^.

      He'll take his own precious time about finding a love object, because he's as critical and painstaking in the selec tion of a woman as he is in his eating, grooming, health [and work habits. Don't try to fool him or lie to him. Your jvirgo lover holds no illusions. He wants a decent, honest (and genuine relationship. He knows very well how small |his chances are of finding it, but it's useless to expect him |to accept anything less. If circumstances ever do involve |him in a sordid affair, you can be certain he won't remain |in its clutches for long.

      | He is a difficult man to stir emotionally. He can go for |a long time without feeling any burning need for a perma-Inent mate. It's enough to make you cry if you've set your | cap for him. You'll wonder if he's made of marble or if he |was born without a heart. No, he isn't made of marble |and yes, he does have a heart. Be patient. To her who (waits comes eventual success.

      | Now and then a curious, frustrated Virgo may try a | fling at deliberate promiscuous behavior, simply to see if |he's lacking in masculinity. He's not, of course, and as | soon as he discovers it, he seeks no more artificial expe-|riences to prove himself. No cool, clear and collected Virgo can be immune to the call of human nature fotever, but once he does succumb, hell be shy about admitting it. When he's on the threshold of submission, he'll cover his true feelings with elaborate casualness. There is more than a spark of subdued, but extremely refined acting talent in Virgo. He will pretend to be disinterested as cleverly as he pretends to be ill when he's not enjoying himself at a party. Don't expect him to respond with any great display of ecstatic surrender even after he's committed, and while he's still deciding if you're really the one for whom he'll forsake his single state, he'll play it mighty cool, indeed.

      Once he's decided it's for real, however, he'll declare himself with touching simplicity. His love will burn with a steady flame, never fluctuating like the love of other Sun signs, and it will give warmth over the years with wonderful dependability. Is that so bad? The one quality of fairy tale romance about Virgo is that, if he's genuinely in love, he will wait for years to claim his true mate, or travel over a thousand mountains to bring her home to his hearth. He's capable of enormous sacrifice in the pursuit of that one dainty foot he's discovered will fit the glass slipper. There's no denying that the flame is strong, once it's been kindled. It's almost impossible to extinguish it. You'll be as eternally adored as Cinderella herself. The trick, I suppose, is in the β€’original kindling. It's a rare foot that fits his glass slipper. Virgo is enormously particular.

      After you've caught him, hell seldom if ever invite your jealousy, and he'll be determined to overcome any rough spots caused by financial problems, relatives or outside interference. He'll show incredible strength through emo tional and material hardships, as long as you remain by his side. You couldn't ask for a more tender, gentle companion when your heart is broken for any reason by a cruel world or when you're physically ill. He won't shower you with money, but you'll be well supplied with necessities, and he will shower you with consideration.

      A Virgo man is invariably kindly and thoughtful about all those little things which matter to women. He has a crystal clear memory and probably won't forget special dates, though he may be a bit mystified as to why you think they are so important. He won't be wildly, passionately jealous, yet Virgo males are possessive in the extreme. This sounds like a fine line to draw, but it's important. Even though he doesn't throw emotional scenes of jealousy over the attentions other men pay you, his deeply rooted pos-sessiveness should warn you that a little freedom goes a long way. The wife of a Virgo who wanders too far away from the home fires too often may find herself without a husband to return to. Virgos are utterly loyal and they dislike destroying family ties intensely, but when their sense of decency has been finally outraged they won't hesi tate to make a cold, clean break in the divorce court. No messy, complicated trial separations for them. When it's over, it's over. Goodbye and good luck. Even the Virgo's sharp, unusually excellent memory won't cause him to cry sentimental tears over the past, simply because he's able to discipline his memory as firmly as he does his emotions. Self-discipline is part of his very nature. The Virgo man with his mind made up moves on-and having moved on, all your tears and apologies are useless in getting him to change his mind. He'll never fall victim to the illusion that gluing together the broken pieces will recreate perfection in what has once been seriously flawed.

      If your heart is set on a Virgo man, you'd better brush up your thinking cap and wear it when he's around. Virgos hate ignorance, stupidity and sloppy thinking almost as much as they hate dirt and vulgarity, and that's a lot. The girl who snares the Virgo heart had better be smartly dressed with a sizable brain under her neat hair style-and you'll notice I said neat hair style. Virgos look for women who are clean in body and mind, and who dress well, but not in flashy extremes of fashion.

      You won't have to be Julia Child, but for goodness sakes, don't ever be naive enough to think a Virgo husband will let you feed him out of cans. A pleasure-seeking, selfish, mentally lazy woman will never make it with a Virgo male, even if she's fairly oozing with sex appeal. This is the very last man in the world you can expect to find running off with a topless Go-Go girl, though he might loan her his sweater if she's chilly. When it comes right down to the nitty gritty, he's looking for a wife-not a mistress in any sense of the word.

      Virgo men have no strong yearning for fatherhood, as a rule. Their particular kind of ego doesn't seem to require children for emotional fulfillment, and Virgos tend to have small families. Yet, once a child or children have been born, the Virgo is an extremely conscientious parent, and will never take his responsibilities lightly. Hell spend many hours teaching his youngsters skills and transmitting hia own high standards of conduct. He'll be cheerfully willing to help with homework and will probably make no end of sacrifices for hobbies, music lessons, camp and especially college. A Virgo father will place great emphasis on intel lect and train his children rigidly in matters of ethics, courtesy and good citizenship. Even the divorced Virgo will eventually see to it somehow that his offspring are well ared for, wherever they may be, and that they get an edu-ation. Children of Virgo fathers usually grow up with both love and respect for books and learning. You'll seldom find a Virgo""parent spoiling a child, and there will always be plenty of necessary discipline. All this is fine, but there may be a need for more physical expressions of love be tween a Virgo father and his youngsters, since affection is not something that comes naturally to him. Unless a serious effort is made in this area from babyhood on, there's more than a small chance that he'll one day discover an insur mountable barrier has grown between him and the offspring he loves so deeply. There's also a tendency to be too criti cal, to expect too much too soon and be too strict.

      A Virgo will expect you to fuss a bit over his health, but hell wait on you when you're sick, too, and allow you to be a regular Camille. He may have his cranky and moody spells now and then, perhaps even frequently. But one thing is sure. If you leave him alone, he won't go out of his way to start an argument with you. Just let him get over his grumpiness and he'll surprise you with tenderness to make up for it. Let him worry. It's good for him, sort of a Virgo mental exercise. But when you see it's affecting his physical state, snap him out of it by suggesting something interesting or different to do. It isn't hard to catch the mental attention of a Virgo, though it may be hard to keep it.

      Now that you know what you're in for, if you're still in love with that Virgo man, you can look forward io a pretty contented future. You'll have a husband who's alert and well-informed, who won't expect you to wait on him hand and foot or expect you to run around looking sexy all the time with a dab of perfume behind each ear and a rose in your teeth. (Although he may expect you to go around with a cake of soap in each hand.)

      Hell be reliable and pleasant, if you're tactful about his faults. He won't have many of them anyway-unless you call the way he runs his finger across the furniture every night, looking for dust, a fault. Little habits like that. No matter what he does, try not to nag him. Remember, he's not constituted to be able to take the critical analysis he applies to others. Get used to his habit of criticizing you, and laugh it off with the realization that he can't help being such a sensitive hairsplitter. Once that resentment is out of the way, you can relax, and really enjoy your bright, loyal Virgo. He's not an angel. There are no wings sprouting on his shoulders. But lots of wives will be jealous of you.

      After all, how many women are married to a hard working, handsome man who's neat and tidy around the house, who remembers anniversaries and performs miracles with the checkbook? How many wives have a smart hus band who dresses well, seldom goes out with the boys or makes passes at other women, and is usually gentle and considerate? Look closely again. Is that just the reflection of the street lights around his head, or could it be . . . ? No, it couldn't possibly be a halo. Not after the way he snapped at you when you spilled the buttered popcorn in his lap at the theater tonight. Of course not. That cranky character? Still, there is a kind of an aura. And when he smiles-and you can see yourself in his clear eyes-well, he'll do until someone with real wings comes along.

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    • RE: The heart of a Virgo man

      Thanks Jenever. I'm just afraid to say the wrong thing. If I mention anything to do with our relationship he won't answer. I must admit I am a little jealous πŸ™‚ a common thread between most of you is that your V's will actually talk about things. Even when sitting across from mine I got mostly silence. I'm probably putting way too much thought into something that most likely won't happen anyways. I've read in several places once a V says it's over, it's over. I deeply hurt mine and he is very angry and very stubborn and I've read that even if he does still love me his mind will win and he will not contact me. This is where my desire to manipulate come in. I could go and plunk myself down on our couch and refuse to leave lol and I doubt he would fo much about it but I wouldn't be happy knowing he didn't ask me to come home. Can you believe our engagement ended and we HAVE NOT EVEN TALKED ABOUT IT!!! That blows me away. I think my best course of action is to have a lobotomy to remove all thoughts of this man from my brain because no matter how hard I try to live in the moment and stay occupied I find myself thinking about him every 2min or so!

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      OMG! My V calls his sister every day too! Unfortunately, despite my best efforts, she decided early on she didn't like us together. Also my V told me early on "just lead me" so I believe they do like to be told what to do...unless they are mad. I am still hoping my V will contact me soon. I know if he does it probably means he still cares-unless it is about moving my stuff out. I hope someone is around to help with what to say because I am at a loss.

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      Well I have had some time to reflect on what you had to say Jenever. I did give him a card saying I agreed with the breakup and thought it was the best thing for both of us but it was not how I felt it was meant to manipulate. I wanted to shift the power from him to me. I wanted him to feel like the rejected one-hoping it would bring him around. Part of the problem with this breakup is it is the first time ever that someone has left me and it definitely makes the process more difficult. I have been fighting a desire to play subtle games to get back together. I know I could probably see some success with this method but I know it is much healthier to allow the universe to decide our fate. I really wouldn't want him back f he had to be talked into or manipulated into it. I would always feel less than and it would give him the message he can treat me how he wants. I would prefer it to be on the terms you outlined Jenever. By him rising to the challenge to figure out how to keep me there. I did make a mistake two weeks ago. He made me so mad when after a week of no contact i sent him a practical text-no relationship stuff-and he gave me a three word answer. So i foolishly told him that i am seeing someone new and i hope he is happy too. On the positive side i did get a response but now he is ignoring me again lol I have been doing great with the no contact thing. I am on day 16 now I just journal if I feel like talking to him and I have been crying but not overly. I am struggling with focusing on being positive and happy, keeping my mind calm and getting over him. The added bonus is I have accepted that this is my last card left to play. I'm really hoping my V can't go longer than three weeks without talking to me too πŸ™‚ part of the problem is his sister and one of his friends are babbling in his ear about throwing me away. So he has outside affirmation that what he is doing is right. My mind tells me yes it is right for us to split. I really need intimacy in a relationship. Also he is BORING lol I am a fast paced Gemini and he just doesn't cut it πŸ™‚ I don't have to be told that I am loved constantly but I need to see it. Unfortunately, I also can't keep my mouth shut! I am definitely not a stepford wife lol if I sm hurt I speak my mind which the creates the drama that V's so enjoyMy heart tells me that he is such a great guy in other ways. We have a lot in common. He is outdoorsy and helpful in practical ways. If the smallest thing on my jerk is broken it is fixed almost immediately-just don't expect a hug when I'm crying πŸ™‚ he has a good job and told me I didn't have to work anymore, he is a hard worker and putterer def someone I could see growing old if the intimacy was there. I am not going to find anyone perfect! If he is willing to go to counselling (he agreed once) then I think with work it could be patched up enough that we are not killing eachother every week or two. I do really love him but I don't want it to be at my expense. If I have to love him from afar to save my sanity then so be it. I am caught between hoping he will text or call thus minute and terrified that he will! Lol I go over what I will say and I still haven't figured out the way to go.

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      Thank you so much for the warm welcome ladies and Jenever for taking so much time to talk. I want to respond properly and I am spending time with my kids so when I have some quiet time I will be back! πŸ™‚

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