Jesus Cites Wife in 4th-Century Papyrus, Says US Scholar

  • Jesus Cites Wife in 4th Century Papyrus, says US Scholar

    Thanks to Phillip and Alice C

    Stephen: Jesus talked about his wife Mary Magdalene – and their daughter and son – on An Hour With an Angel on January 16, 2012;

    At the time, he told Steve Beckow: “Yes. My wife and (daughter) Sarah, (son) James, my brother Joseph, and a retinue of disciples who would attend to the family went to France. Andrew as well. The life was very simple, and very quiet. The Magdalena in many ways retreated. But Sarah did not, for she moved amongst the people, and she embraced them. And they embraced her as well. And she is the one who carried the lineage”.

    So you ‘heard it here first’ folks, to use the old saying… and now it’s on London’s The Guardian newspaper… and a Harvard Divinity School video. And another truth simply ‘pops’ into the Light!

    Jesus Cites Wife in Fourth Century Script, says US Scholar

    Harvard Professor Karen King with the previously unknown papyrus fragment that, when translated, contains “Jesus said to them, my wife.” “This new gospel doesn’t prove that Jesus was married, but it tells us that the whole question only came up as part of vociferous debates about sexuality and marriage,” said King

    Jesus Cites Wife in Fourth Century Script, says US Scholar

    Ancient text contains a dialogue in which Jesus refers to ‘my wife’, says expert in the history of Christianity at Harvard

    By Associated Press in Boston, The Guardian – September 19, 2012

    A Harvard University professor has unveiled a fourth-century fragment of papyrus she said is the only existing ancient text quoting Jesus explicitly referring to having a wife.

    Karen King, an expert in the history of Christianity, said the text contains a dialogue in which Jesus refers to “my wife,” whom he identifies as Mary. King says the fragment of Coptic script is a copy of a gospel, probably written in Greek in the second century.

    King helped translate and unveiled the tiny fragment at a conference of Coptic experts in Rome. She said it doesn’t prove Jesus was married but speaks to issues of family and marriage that faced Christians.

    Four words in the 1.5 x 3in (3.8 x 7.6cm) fragment provide the first evidence that some early Christians believed Jesus had been married, King said. Those words, written in a language of ancient Egyptian Christians, translate to “Jesus said to them, my wife,” King said in a statement.

    He added that in the dialogue the disciples discuss whether Mary is worthy and Jesus says: “She can be my disciple.”

    Christian tradition has long held that Jesus was unmarried even though there was no reliable historical evidence to support that, King said. The new gospel, she said, “tells us that the whole question only came up as part of vociferous debates about sexuality and marriage”.

    “From the very beginning, Christians disagreed about whether it was better not to marry,” she said, “but it was over a century after Jesus’s death before they began appealing to Jesus’s marital status to support their positions.”

    King presented the document at a six-day conference being held at Rome’s La Sapienza University and at the Augustinianum institute of the Pontifical Lateran University. While the Vatican newspaper and Vatican Radio frequently cover such academic conferences, there was no mention of King’s discovery in any Vatican media on Tuesday. That said, her paper was one of nearly 60 delivered on Tuesday at the vast conference, which drew 300 academics from around the globe.

    The fragment belongs to an anonymous private collector who contacted King to help translate and analyse it. Nothing is known about the circumstances of its discovery, but it had to have come from Egypt, where the dry climate allows ancient writings to survive and because it was written in a script used in ancient times there, King said.

    The unclear origins of the document should encourage people to be cautious, said Bible scholar Ben Witherington III, a professor and author who teaches at Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore, Kentucky. He said the document follows the pattern of Gnostic texts of the second, third and fourth centuries, using “the language of intimacy to talk about spiritual relationships”.

    “What we hear from the Gnostic is this practice called the sister-wife texts, where they carried around a female believer with them who cooks for them and cleans for them and does the usual domestic chores, but they have no sexual relationship whatsoever,” during the strong monastic periods of the third and fourth centuries, Witherington said.

    “In other words, this is no confirmation of the Da Vinci Code or even of the idea that the Gnostics thought Jesus was married in the normal sense of the word.”

    Thes doubts, King said, should not stop scholars from continuing to examine the document.

    Those who conducted an initial examination of the fragment include Roger Bagnall, a papyrologist who is director of the New York-based Institute for the Study of the Ancient World, and AnneMarie Luijendijk, a scholar of the New Testament and early Christianity from Princeton University. They said their study of the papyrus, the handwriting and how the ink was chemically absorbed shows it is highly probable it is an ancient text, King said.

    Another scholar, Ariel Shisha-Halevy, professor of linguistics at Hebrew University and a leading expert on Coptic language, reviewed the text’s language and concluded it offered no evidence of forgery.

    King and Luijendijk said they believe the fragment was part of a newly discovered gospel they named “Gospel of Jesus’s Wife” for reference purposes.

    King said she dated the time it was written to the second half of the second century because the fragment shows close connections to other newly discovered gospels written at that time, especially the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Mary and the Gospel of Philip.

  • I knew he had a son with Mary and that she moved to France and had a child, didn't know there were two children.

  • I totally agree with all this information, and I feel it was always covered up, I feel Christ did not truly know his last years until they happened , so why would it not be a normal part of his life to have married.

  • True, read the Aquarian Gospels, tells the whole story, in a Channel he said that it's true. I meant daughter not a son, knew of a daughter, they removed anything that told people that they didn't need a middle man for access to God. The Romans and the Catholic Church. Truth will always prevail. Have a good one! This is the time of Revelations, the story is just beginning.

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