Hanswolfgang...I would LOVE to hear what your thoughts are if you have a moment.

  • Greenii74,

    Isn't that odd? No.

    How do you "drop the cloud", tame the chatter, escape from the everyday temptation of gossip and search for external opinions? There is a Sufi story:

    Junaid was going through the market-place of the town with his disciples. And it was his way to take any situation and use it. A man was dragging his cow by a rope, and Junaid said 'Wait' to the man, and told his disciples 'Surround this man and the cow. I am going to teach you something.'

    The man stopped -- Junaid was a famous mystic -- and he was also interested in what he was going to teach these disciples and how he was going to use him and the cow. And Junaid asked his disciples 'I ask you one thing: who is bound to whom? Is the cow bound to this man or is this man bound to this cow?' Of course, the disciples said 'The cow is bound to the man. The man is the master, he is holding the rope, the cow has to follow him wherever he goes. He is the master and the cow is the slave.'

    And Junaid said 'Now, see.' He took out his scissors and cut the rope -- and the cow escaped. The man ran after the cow, and Junaid said 'Now look what is happening! Now you see who is the master; the cow is not interested at all in this man -- in fact, she is escaping.' And the man was very angry, he said 'What kind of experiment is this ?' But Junaid said to his disciples 'And this is the case with your mind. All the nonsense that you are carrying inside is not interested in you. You are interested in it, you are keeping it together somehow -- you are becoming mad in keeping it together somehow. But you are interested IN it. The moment you lose interest, the moment you understand the futility of it, it will start disappearing; like the cow it will escape.'

    You ask 'How do you "drop the cloud", tame the chatter, escape from the everyday temptation of gossip and search for external opinions?' I say 'There is no need to stop, all that is needed is that you become disinterested in it and the rope is cut.' That is the meaning: become disinterested

    Just do it? No.

    That simple? No.

    To be complacent or to be at peace? Be at peace.

    a connection though for sure. Why? Because reservations and distrustful thoughts are barriers that stand between you and the Source, and they must be worn down and eliminated.

    Do you have any insight into that? Take a deep breath, and take it easy. If mistakes happen, it's okay. If things get a little out of hand, it's probably just what the doctor ordered. There is much, much more to life than being "on top of things."

    do you see either of these relationships in my lifepath? No.

    Do either of these seem cosmic to you? No.

    With my friend, you feel patience and silence is best to work that one out? No.

    Nothing else? No.

    is my friend open to contact? no.

    I wrote a poem to him, is that too much? No.

    does he know I am there and is that his way of a connection? Yes.


    but love is a good learning. It is just as when one goes to learn swimming: one cannot immediately jump into the deep river, one has to learn in shallow water first. Once you have learned how to swim you need not remain confined to the shallow waters, you can go to the deepest part of the river.

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